Yeah it's weird since the dev says he wants to cement this as vanilla in the next update but nobody who wants vanilla wants to watch the heroines fuck other people but it also won't attract NTR people since it's only like that in the first version it's like a niche of a niche
For your point, yeah, that might've been a missight of mine. I meant the first 3 girls as side-characters only as they really don't have any romantic relationships with Charlie since he's gonna get his own later and him being a bystander is basically allowing players to see their [as in Ruth, Joan, and 3rd girl] relationships prosper through another character's perspective thus giving that NTR-like feel but is really still vanilla cause they weren't taken from Charlie and it's just them finding their own partners, and by "cementing this game as vanilla next update", I meant that as Charlie meeting one of his own heroines later on to be his partner for V2.0 marking the primary girls as side characters since they're only gonna be present for the 1st half of the game.
Your comment though put it for me clearly that I'm trying to attract some very specific audience in 1 game with 2 opposing niches, so addendum to my plan is I might just separate V2.0 entirely to a different game still with Charlie and his would-be heroine present since Constantin so it would be Constantin = NTR people, [Constantin sequel] = vanilla/harem people.
"Why not just make the 2 games different entirely, as in Charlie only as bystander in Constantin and a different mc for your 2nd game?": It's cause I have a long ass progression planned to set the dynamic for Charlie's relationship with his 1st girl and making that as the first good part of a game, meaning no sex, seems long and boring for me so instead, I'm squeezing it in the middle of Constantin, to not bore my viewers and basically hitting 2 stones with 1 bird.
"If V2.0 is gonna be Charlie with his own harem then, why not just include the development for the other girls alongside [Charlie's 1st girl] so the first parts of that game need not feel empty?": Well, Charlie is supposed to meet the other girls later to flag that arc of his life as new and livelier but his familiarity with his first girl is what's gonna make their dynamic special, so you'd understand on why they need to spend a significant amount of time by themselves first.
Apologies if my phrasings are a bit off since English is only my 3rd language so please, keep telling me your concerns🥰
Thats the problem you are gonna make vanilla people leave the game and only ntr and voyeur lovers stick to later make the game vanilla so the voyeur and ntr lovers are gonna leave but the vanilla lovers also not gonna come because of the beginning WTF thats dumb better make two separete games
Hmmm, personally I don't think there's anything wrong with that since many games do tackle with different niches at the same time. Like those where you can keep your wife loyal or make her cheat or those harem games where getting multiple girls is optional.Those that just want a particular niche in these game could just play that part of the game then if they strictly don't want to do the others.
Besides, dev said that first version is all gonna be NTR-like so I don't think people would get confused. If you want that content then only play 1st version or if you don't, then wait for second.
Ok but if you have to go through the first part of this for the second part to make sense then people who don't like that content just aren't going to play it at all which I why I find it odd that the first part of this "vanilla game" is all voyeurism
Might as well ask that to other games with multiple paths, which is like half the VN world. Just cause the game doesn't appeal to u doesn't mean it wouldn't appeal to other people you maggot
Relax your tiits little boy in which moment did i say that dev cant make the game like this
If you liked good for you nothing wrong the problem is whit making a game that the first half is very clear anovoidable NTR feel like to later making the second part Vanilla Harem romance etc is gonna be a big whiplash is not the same like a multi path game that you choose your prefered path at the beggining the first paths in this game is gonna be MC be the oblivous dumb that everyone is fucking around him except him and we later we had to believe he is gonna have a harem dont make me laugh . I get the game is gonna make the typical zero to hero but this type of historys is not zero is -1000 to maybe zero then later a normal guy .
I say it again the dev can make the game he wants and mix two opposite genres or do all the weird shit that all he wants but gaining supports whit two so opposite genres is gonna be hard .
I've got a solution for this and thank you for pointing it out for me!
Upon next update, I'm going to divide the game into two:
Dionysus = will basically still follow the current concept I have for Constantin with hopes of publishing Side Stories in the future.
Apollo = will only feature parts of V1.0 that's relevant for V2.0 and will also be the one to be updated to V2.0, meaning no H-scenes that Charlie's not a part of will be included but the current side characters will still make appearances, as I think their presence around Charlie is good to keep.
Apollo will still contain the original Constantin characters I've planned since making it a completely different game with different resources would take time I could otherwise use to develop Constantin and it's never a good idea to develop 2 games at the same time. Also, as I've said before, I'll be using Constantin's first half to set Charlie's dynamic with one of his future girls. It's script/dialogue is just gonna need a little tweaking since I'll be excluding the V1.0 H-scenes in it meaning its updates is gonna be shorter too compared to Dionysus but that's only till before V2.0.
This plan is still in the works but this is the best compromise I can think of to make all possible players satisfied without compromising my plans for this game so if you could just bear with me, let's see how this project turns out together💗💗💗
Dude, you have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for a game like this. A voyeurism game with that NTR vibe, but without being too heavy or dark. I think I struck gold here.
I aim to live up to your expectations! I'm thinking of adding narration-style script next update to give the peeking moments more intensity.
Though I think Ruth's first scene was a bit too wild as I was rendering it, that's why I'm mulling over the prospect of adding Side Stories too once V1.0 is complete to show the development of Ruth and Jake's relationship, starting at their first meeting.
Speaking of voyeurism, 0.2 will feature another scene of such act so stay tuned!
Nono, scenes were so bad I wished it wasn't that long. It's no better than some random personal projects made by anyone using Koikatsu, just that you actually published yours. Jesus, they'd make anyone a dev nowadays, even those that pathetically take advantage of NTR at that.
Chapters featuring the development of those relationships dubbed Side Stories which will include the couples' life before Charlie comes into the picture is POSSIBLE in the future so stay tuned!
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Who is the tsrget audience of this game WTF
Anyone who wants to play it 💗💗💗
Yeah it's weird since the dev says he wants to cement this as vanilla in the next update but nobody who wants vanilla wants to watch the heroines fuck other people but it also won't attract NTR people since it's only like that in the first version it's like a niche of a niche
Thx for reading my devlog💗
For your point, yeah, that might've been a missight of mine. I meant the first 3 girls as side-characters only as they really don't have any romantic relationships with Charlie since he's gonna get his own later and him being a bystander is basically allowing players to see their [as in Ruth, Joan, and 3rd girl] relationships prosper through another character's perspective thus giving that NTR-like feel but is really still vanilla cause they weren't taken from Charlie and it's just them finding their own partners, and by "cementing this game as vanilla next update", I meant that as Charlie meeting one of his own heroines later on to be his partner for V2.0 marking the primary girls as side characters since they're only gonna be present for the 1st half of the game.
Your comment though put it for me clearly that I'm trying to attract some very specific audience in 1 game with 2 opposing niches, so addendum to my plan is I might just separate V2.0 entirely to a different game still with Charlie and his would-be heroine present since Constantin so it would be Constantin = NTR people, [Constantin sequel] = vanilla/harem people.
"Why not just make the 2 games different entirely, as in Charlie only as bystander in Constantin and a different mc for your 2nd game?": It's cause I have a long ass progression planned to set the dynamic for Charlie's relationship with his 1st girl and making that as the first good part of a game, meaning no sex, seems long and boring for me so instead, I'm squeezing it in the middle of Constantin, to not bore my viewers and basically hitting 2 stones with 1 bird.
"If V2.0 is gonna be Charlie with his own harem then, why not just include the development for the other girls alongside [Charlie's 1st girl] so the first parts of that game need not feel empty?": Well, Charlie is supposed to meet the other girls later to flag that arc of his life as new and livelier but his familiarity with his first girl is what's gonna make their dynamic special, so you'd understand on why they need to spend a significant amount of time by themselves first.
Apologies if my phrasings are a bit off since English is only my 3rd language so please, keep telling me your concerns🥰
Thats the problem you are gonna make vanilla people leave the game and only ntr and voyeur lovers stick to later make the game vanilla so the voyeur and ntr lovers are gonna leave but the vanilla lovers also not gonna come because of the beginning WTF thats dumb better make two separete games
Hmmm, personally I don't think there's anything wrong with that since many games do tackle with different niches at the same time. Like those where you can keep your wife loyal or make her cheat or those harem games where getting multiple girls is optional.Those that just want a particular niche in these game could just play that part of the game then if they strictly don't want to do the others.
Besides, dev said that first version is all gonna be NTR-like so I don't think people would get confused. If you want that content then only play 1st version or if you don't, then wait for second.
Thanks for the support💗💗
Ok but if you have to go through the first part of this for the second part to make sense then people who don't like that content just aren't going to play it at all which I why I find it odd that the first part of this "vanilla game" is all voyeurism
Might as well ask that to other games with multiple paths, which is like half the VN world. Just cause the game doesn't appeal to u doesn't mean it wouldn't appeal to other people you maggot
No sharp words please🫣 Not everyone will like my game and that's ok💗💗💗
Relax your tiits little boy in which moment did i say that dev cant make the game like this
If you liked good for you nothing wrong the problem is whit making a game that the first half is very clear anovoidable NTR feel like to later making the second part Vanilla Harem romance etc is gonna be a big whiplash is not the same like a multi path game that you choose your prefered path at the beggining the first paths in this game is gonna be MC be the oblivous dumb that everyone is fucking around him except him and we later we had to believe he is gonna have a harem dont make me laugh . I get the game is gonna make the typical zero to hero but this type of historys is not zero is -1000 to maybe zero then later a normal guy .
I say it again the dev can make the game he wants and mix two opposite genres or do all the weird shit that all he wants but gaining supports whit two so opposite genres is gonna be hard .
I've got a solution for this and thank you for pointing it out for me!
Upon next update, I'm going to divide the game into two:
Apollo will still contain the original Constantin characters I've planned since making it a completely different game with different resources would take time I could otherwise use to develop Constantin and it's never a good idea to develop 2 games at the same time. Also, as I've said before, I'll be using Constantin's first half to set Charlie's dynamic with one of his future girls. It's script/dialogue is just gonna need a little tweaking since I'll be excluding the V1.0 H-scenes in it meaning its updates is gonna be shorter too compared to Dionysus but that's only till before V2.0.
This plan is still in the works but this is the best compromise I can think of to make all possible players satisfied without compromising my plans for this game so if you could just bear with me, let's see how this project turns out together💗💗💗
Dude, you have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for a game like this. A voyeurism game with that NTR vibe, but without being too heavy or dark. I think I struck gold here.
I aim to live up to your expectations! I'm thinking of adding narration-style script next update to give the peeking moments more intensity.
Though I think Ruth's first scene was a bit too wild as I was rendering it, that's why I'm mulling over the prospect of adding Side Stories too once V1.0 is complete to show the development of Ruth and Jake's relationship, starting at their first meeting.
Speaking of voyeurism, 0.2 will feature another scene of such act so stay tuned!
Gameplay was longer than expected lol
Looking forward for more
Thank you!
Nono, scenes were so bad I wished it wasn't that long. It's no better than some random personal projects made by anyone using Koikatsu, just that you actually published yours. Jesus, they'd make anyone a dev nowadays, even those that pathetically take advantage of NTR at that.
Sprites could use some work but H-scenes are ok, tho I would prefer if there was a build-up on the relationships? Like not sex immediately...
Chapters featuring the development of those relationships dubbed Side Stories which will include the couples' life before Charlie comes into the picture is POSSIBLE in the future so stay tuned!